Monday, December 26, 2011

Update on LB6800PRW Embroidery machine

Update on LB6800PRW.

Now that I have had this machine for about a year, I can add some more to what I said earlier. My LB6800PRW is starting to show it's age. I use it all the time, it is just too much fun making stuff! I can't figure out how to check the stitch count, but back of the envelope math on how much stabilizer & thread I have used says I am somewhere between 20 and 30 million, with only a few minor problems along the way.

I do swap out needles often, since they are only about a dime when you get a hundred at a time. I have used about 75 or so. There is no reason not to swap them out often, besides that it is somewhat of a pain to do it if you have larger fingers like I do. I have managed to break a few needles, most of the time it is due to the thread wrapping around the spool pin when unwinding. It happens maybe once a month, so it isn't too bad. I used to wind my own bobbins for embroidery, but that takes until forever, so I switched to prewound ones. I really like the ones from World Weidner on Amazon, they have constant tension, and unspool well. Several other brands I have tried have winding knots in them, and will jam the machine. I have never had that problem with World Weidner's, and I went though 2 gross of them so far.

One of the problems that I had was that the needle threader stopped working. When I pressed it, it would stick at the bottom, and not try to 'wrap' the needle. I took the needle threader apart, and used a drop of sewing machine lubricant on it, and gently worked it a few times. The needle threader then worked again. I have had to do this twice in the last year.

The embroidery foot itself actually wore out as well. The foot moves up and down with each stitch, and the guide pin actually elongated the hole of the presser foot. This made the foot move enough so that it would block the needle threader, and too much more wear would have allowed the needle to hit the presser foot. I looked all over for a replacement, and couldn't find one anywhere. finally, I ordered one direct from Brother for about $10. It is part number XD0474151, and fits both the SE400, and the LB6800PRW. 20 million stitches sounds more than fair.

Besides those 2 things, the machine has been flawless. I need to clean the lint out of it and wipe it down, but those are both normal maintenance things. It runs like champ both when doing embroidery and regular sewing. All in all, I highly recommend this machine. I even bought another (though the SE400 instead because I didn't need a case) to give as a Christmas present. It is very quiet, and can sew circles around any machine I have used in the past.

As a note again, the LB6800PRW and SE-400 combination machines are basically the same, see my past posts for an overview.

19 comments:

  1. I know nothing about ADODB. Command. Somehow when I clicked on your fabulous post on the LB6800PRW Embroidery machine it took me to your Agust post. I didn't realize I was commenting on that post. So just delete my comment there if you want.

    This is what I wanted to say.

    I have been looking for a embroidery machine. An really like what I see with this brother machine. I saw your great review. Brother should pay you to write a description for them. You have convinced me to purchase. Hope you get a cut. I design clothes for a friend Cathy. But I want to do more and I think this is just the thing I need. Thanks for your review

    Rick richosea@gmail.com

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  2. EVADMAN Need your help please!
    I am considering purchasing the 6800 machine, and have it shipped to me in Israel.

    My only concern is the power requirements, because amazon clearly states: "We do not recommend using this machine in countries that do not support 120V AC even if a voltage adapter is in use" while there is totally no information on the instructions manual, except a hint at page 17 with a drawing of multiple power sockets - hinting that it knows to work with universal inputs like Laptop's power converters.

    Can you please look at the Input powers label on yours, and post a picture of this label? this would help me greatly!

    I am thinking of this transformer+surge protection:
    http://www.220-electronics.com/100-watt-diamond-series-deluxe-voltage-converter.html
    However it does NOT convert the frequency, and I am not sure how important this is.
    Some people bet that it is running on DC power internally, and therefore frequency conversion is not important (they imply that DC power does not care about the frequency.

    If you could at least post a picture of the input labels, and whether you have universal plugin or whatever you can add, would be a great help!!


    Thanks :)

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  3. Thank you for your fantastic reviews of the Brother and the Singer embroidery machines. I'm in the market for my first embroidery machine and not wanting to drop a ton of money on something I may not use too often. I'm looking at the Brother PE770 because of the larger hoop size and so many of my favorite designs are bigger at www.urbanthreads.com but the $250 jump in price is a bit scary. Anyways, thank you and happy sewing.

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    1. I also have the PE770 because of the larger hoop size. Actually, I have 3 PE770's so I can do more stuff at once. Be aware the PE770 does not do sewing, it is an embroidery only machine.

      The only gotcha besides that is they do need more maintenance than the LB6800PRW does, but can sew faster and in a larger area. According to the local shop's tech, the PE770 breaks a lot more often than the LB6800PRW. According to my data, I see the same thing, but a sample size of 4 machines (1 LB6800PRW, 3 PE770's) isn't enough for a statistical sample.

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  4. Evadman, may I ask why do you need 3 home grade Embroidery machines?
    Are you making aliving out of embroidery alone? how so, if I may ask?

    Since getting the PRW6800 for my wife, I found out it cant be really utilized for money-making, because of slow rate, too much need of watching it to stop when thread falls out of the needle (or torn) etc.
    Same goes for sewing - it takes too long to create clothes, that it becomes not very profitable thing to do.

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  5. I actually have 6 embroidery machines. I started with a 6800PRW, then was bitten by the sewing bug. It's been a while since I was this enthused about a project. I try to teach myself one new major thing a year (programming, electric bike, embroidery, etc) and each seems to turn into something major that I keep working on. Embroidery has definitely beaten everything else so far.

    After the 6800PRW (100mm by 100mm, 300 stitches per minute), I wanted bigger and faster. So I added a PE770 (130mm by 180mm, 600 stitches per minute), then added 2 more PE770's because I couldn't get designs done fast enough. Then I added a ULT 2001 (150mm by 250mm, 800 stitches per minute) because I wanted bigger and faster again. I built a custom table and several versions of a spool rack that would allow more than 30 king spools (5500 yard spools) to be loaded and spooled directly to the machines because loading thread on the spool pins took too long, and every once and a while would break. I could feed any combination of more than 30 colors to the 5 machines, all running simultaneously. It still wasn't fast enough.

    So I researched some more for many months, and finally got a full size 15 needle commercial embroidery machine that can do up to 300mm by 450mm at 1100 stitches per minute (and actually sews 99% of stitches at that speed unlike the PE770 and ULT 2001). It will also do hats since I specifically wanted a machine that could do hats since the other machines could not. However, the hooping and hat driver is a pain.

    So basically from Jan 2011 to Jan 2013, I went from a Brother LB6800PRW to a monster of a machine that shakes my house unless I bolt it to the floor. But I went from making 3 designs per hour of actual work, to making more than 60 designs per actual hour of work. The things I have learned in the past 2 years on sewing, embroidery, digitizing, patches, business, taxes, advertizing, search engine optimization, and customer service is enough to fill a book. Or a blog. Heck, I recently designed a way to make patches on a machine that is as easy as embroidering a shirt. Nothing like this horrible process: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcOlFSkGaWo where you need to cut it out or use a soldering iron/wood burner. Unfortunately, it uses material used in full size lithography machines, so it only comes on 8 foot wide, 5000 yard long spools that weigh about 3 tons (6,000 lbs, seriously) It isn't available in home user size, or even full size embroidery shop size. I probably have enough to last me until the sun explodes, but it is perfect for patches, and cheaper than dirt (it is actually cheaper than dirt by weight I think)

    I really need to find the time to write more blog entries. But to answer your question quickly on making money doing this: I made negative 16 dollars last year if I remember correctly. This year, I am approaching 9 thousand. Not even close to making a living, but it is a nice side business. I honestly spend more time printing a label for the mail than I do making the actual embroidered item. The 'how so' will take quite a bit more typing than this entry.

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    1. Interesting! thank you so much for finding the time to share this, I hope when you have some time and desire, you could expand and add blog posts :)

      But just the basics: what are you selling? custom patches like in this video? custom sewed clothes? or what exactly? its unclear.
      Also how? through friends/local market? ebay perhaps? Do you design your own Embroidery designs? if so, which software do you recommend, that would suit to work with the PRW6800?
      Also, please one final question hehe :)
      Which embroidery thread do you recommend for the Brother PRW6800, and from what supplier? I have tried some, but most are too low quality threads, get torn off while embroidering too easily, and/or not shiny enough. Of course with respect to price so it wouldnt be too high :)

      Perhaps my wife's mistake is trying to do both - embroidery+sewing+design as one package (which she knows to do only on the very basics) and should focus efforts on Embroidery only?

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    2. Very quick:
      Selling - Everything that involves embroidery.
      How - probably 90% referral though friends/past sales. other 10% from random conversations and online.
      Digitizing - very complicated question, but I do my own by hand.
      Thread - another complicated question but don't buy cheap thread. I have tried every brand you can probably name, and have full sets of 5 different thread manufacturers (3 of them are total crap) All my machines (including 6800PRW) like Madeira Polyneon and Isacord Poly; I can go months without a single thread break on my 6800prw. Only caveat is to not buy the polyneon thread chest from Madeira because it is way overpriced for what you get (I have one). The only reason you should get the thread chest set is because you like the chest itself enough to pay $150 for it alone. Instead, order single spools.

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  8. Oh I just love this-what a fantastic find! It reminds me so much of my mother's embroideries. Having the date on the envelope makes you stop and think what was going on at the time...finishing it now would be so poignant. I would then frame it along with the envelope-beautiful! xx

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